GwinnettForum | Number 20.88 | Dec. 4, 2020
ONE GINKGO TREE in Gwinnett said to the other recently, “I think I’ll drop out.” The second Ginkgo had different thoughts: “Not me, I think I’ll stick around a little longer.” But two days later, leaves of the second tree had also let go. That’s what’s happening to leaves all around Gwinnett, meaning that winter’s coming, a sure sign that spring can’t be far behind.
TODAY’S FOCUS: Annual Thanksgiving TV dinner tasting has surprise winner
EEB PERSPECTIVE: Time for a new series around “Vanishing Gwinnett” theme
ANOTHER VIEW: Conduct of two Senate candidates show their unfitness for office
SPOTLIGHT: Gateway85 Gwinnett
FEEDBACK: Continued phone solicitations need to be curbed or governed
UPCOMING: International phone company to open US office in Duluth
NOTABLE: Fuqua chosen to develop former 26 acre Olympic tennis site
RECOMMENDED: Consciousness and Its Implications by Daniel N. Robinson
GEORGIA TIDBIT: City of Richmond Hill area was once owned by Henry Ford
MYSTERY PHOTO: Tall cross gets attention as today’s Mystery Photo
Annual Thanksgiving TV dinner tasting has surprise winner
(Editor’s note: a reader in North Carolina has a distinctly different way to prepare the meal for Thanksgiving. Read on to learn her method. –eeb)
By Eliza Fehrs
HILLSBOROUGH, N.C. | Years ago I introduced a different way to do Thanksgiving to my husband, and now it’s become an annual tradition – a TV dinner taste-off! (More fun than roasting a big turkey, and having left-overs.)
This year was a bit unusual, not because of the pandemic, but because we knew our choice for the winner two weeks before the competition. So, we did not include that winner in the actual ‘Final Four’ battle.
While it seems excessive to sample four frozen dinners, the portions are generally for one person, so with two of us tasting each of the four, it’s actually not that much food. Especially if some of the dinners were rejected, and tossed, because of mushiness, awful taste, etc. We had leftovers from all four dinners. So, the contenders ended up in the trash.
In a previous year, Boston Market’s Turkey Medallions (with stuffing and mashed potatoes and carrots/green beans) won forks-down. Therefore, we did not include it this year, opting to sample a different Boston Market turkey dinner — the Smothered Turkey with mashed potatoes. The good part: the mashed potatoes and turkey slices, which both seemed to mimic the previous winner’s recipe. What made it AWFUL was the Texas toast the turkey and gravy sat on. It became mush and was truly terrible. It was our least favorite. Even the dog turned up his nose on that one.
A second dinner came from Stouffer’s, their Roast Turkey Breast dinner, consisting of turkey medallions. (It tastes like the turkey medallions all come from the same original source for all of these dinners.) This came with stuffing and homestyle gravy and russet mashed potatoes. The stuffing was “gluey” in texture (ugh) and the potatoes’ texture and taste were that of instant potatoes, also bordering on gluey. Not good. Next to least favorite. We didn’t even test this one on the dog.
The third option was from Marie Callender’s Roasted Turkey Breast and Stuffing. It came with “creamy mashed potatoes and vegetables in a savory gravy.” — The vegetables were plain (no seasoning) and watery, basically inedible. It had the same turkey medallions, stuffing OK, gravy OK. It ended up second place by default. By this time, the dog had left the room.
The surprise winner was from Lean Cuisine: Roasted Turkey Breast with savory herb dressing and cinnamon apples. This one won the turkey and stuffing best taste, and the apples were good, and not mashed potatoes, a nice twist! The portion was appropriate.
Now to the REAL winner that was not entered into this competition: Park Street Deli’s Stuffed Turkey Breast with cranberry and sausage stuffing, purchased at Aldi’s, which we ate for dinner one night two weeks before Thanksgiving. This comes fully cooked (just heat and serve) and is basically a turkey breast flattened and rolled with the stuffing inside. We cooked it in the oven, though it has microwave instructions, and did pre-slice per instructions. I stuffed butter in the slices which could be why it was a favorite.
Final note: We ate a second Park Street Deli stuffed turkey breast two days later. Still the winner!
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Time for a new series around “Vanishing Gwinnett” theme
The Lawrenceville Country Club, aka, Gunter’s Barbeque
By Elliott Brack
Editor and Publisher, GwinnettForum
DEC. 4, 2020 | In this space recently we wrote about Hometown Barbeque closing. Its forerunner was called Gunter’s Barbeque.
I have a framed 16×20 painting of Gunter’s, by the late George Keener, in my home hallway that I pass each day. When writing about Hometown Barbeque, I was wanting to have a photo of its predecessor, the old Gunter’s. It never came to mind that I had that painting.
Keener’s painting is entitled Vanishing Gwinnett: Gunter’s Barbeque. I have other paintings of older Gwinnett buildings, all 16×20 and beautifully framed, grouped together near our foyer. They are:
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Kidd’s Courthouse
Johnson’s Grocery, by Bob Miller (1987);
- Elisha Winn House by Bob Miller (1988) and
- Ted’s Fruit Stand, by Ann Odum (1990).
Our living room also has another notable local painting, of the Historic Gwinnett Courthouse, done about 1987 by David Kidd. It shows the courthouse when it was stucco white, before the red-brick restoration.
While only one of our paintings is named officially “Vanishing Gwinnett,” in effect all four of the five are historic renderings of the way they previously looked. The Elisha Winn House, Gwinnett’s birthplace, remains restored by the Gwinnett Historical Society, much as Miller painted it in 1988,
Johnson’s Grocery
Johnson’s Grocery has since been demolished, and was on Georgia Highway 120 between Duluth and Lawrenceville, and run by Vera Huff. “She was a character,” Ann Odum remembers, “A step back in time.”
Ted’s Fruit Stand
Ted’s Fruit Stand was at the northeastern corner of Buford Highway and Georgia Highway 120 in Duluth. It was a landmark selling fresh produce, fruit, etc., operating out of an old gas station by Ted Hambrick. It is part of many, many nearly 100 different paintings that Ann Odum has done in her hometown. The list is exhaustive. Ann put reproductions of 97 of her paintings of Duluth in a beautiful book, Duluth: Through the Eyes of One of Its Own, in 2011. She has a few remaining copies for sale.
Elisha Winn House
David Kidd of Loganville was an artist working at the Gwinnett Daily News when he painted the old courthouse. I think he is still around, but I have lost contact with him.
The term Vanishing Gwinnett is the title of two books published by the Gwinnett Historical Society. These were coffee-table sized editions showing old photos of many Gwinnett places. Dorsey Stancil of Buford edited each book. The first was published in 1984, while Vanishing Gwinnett II came out in 2001.
It’s time to see someone publish more old images of latter day activities in a new Vanishing Gwinnett III book. Volunteers: step forward!
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With Gwinnett growing so quickly, and buildings being disrupted, this leads me to wonder: why can’t we get the several Gwinnett artists associations to come together and capture in paint some of the remaining old and endangered buildings of Gwinnett? It needs to be a coordinated effort, and not approached in a willy-nilly fashion. Perhaps some group will step forward to propel this idea forward, and preserve on canvas these historic older buildings, some of which need photos to paint from.
Here’s a suggestion of some scenes that needs to be remembered in a new series of “Vanishing Gwinnett” paintings:
- Old two story high schools in Grayson, Dacula and Norcross.
- The original Joan Glancy Hospital.
- The Twin Towers on I-85, with “Gwinnett Is Great,” and “Success Lives Here.”
- George Pearce’s Store in Suwanee.
- Mechanicsville school in Peachtree Corners.
- George Williams House in Lawrenceville.
- The old tannery in Buford.
And no doubt, old-time Gwinnettians can come up with other buildings that need to be memorialized. Who will step forward to preserve these older buildings in paintings?
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Conduct of two Senate candidates show their unfitness for office
By George Wilson, contributing columnist
STONE MOUNTAIN, Ga. | “The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”—Dante Alighieri.
Well, the ballots have been cast and tabulated in this presidential election. They have found errors, but no fraud, and nothing that comes close to changing the results: Democratic candidate Joe Biden was the winner of the state’s 16 electoral votes.
That makes all the more unforgivable the conduct of Georgia’s two Republican senators in making reckless charges about the integrity of the vote. They attempt to undermine the election by asking Georgia’s Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, to resign.
Also, President Trump’s dishonest and anti-democratic machinations should not be forgotten by Georgia voters when they go to the polls in January, or sooner if voting early, for two critical U.S. Senate runoff elections.
Furthermore, if the Democrats win both, they will narrowly control the Senate, and Joe Biden will be able to pursue ambitious legislation on many fronts, from COVID-19, to climate change, and job creation, on taxes, and many more fronts. If Republicans win either Georgia seat, they will retain Senate control with Mitch McConnell in charge, and Biden will need at least one Republican vote to pass any bill.
Republicans were almost uniformly unwilling to work with Presidents Bill Clinton or Barack Obama on major legislation, dealing with taxes, the climate, health care, economic stimulus, etc. Obama offered various compromises — like market-based systems to expand health insurance or combat climate change — and still could not win Republican votes.
Maybe Biden will somehow prove more adept at finding Republican votes than Obama or Clinton. More likely, though, the elections in Georgia will shape Washington for at least the next two years.
Finally, some of the most important legislation in this country’s history, including Social Security and early civil rights legislation, emerged when one party controlled both Congress and the White House.
Georgia voters have an opportunity to enable another period of tangible progress. The alternative is to reward two politicians conspiring to groundlessly undermine faith in American democracy.
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Continued phone solicitations need to be curbed or governed
Editor, the Forum:
First thing this morning I read your article about junk calls. I feel your pain. Over the last six months or so we have received 40-50 calls per day that we refer to as dead air calls. I can count on one hand the real calls we have gotten on our land line. I am thinking about cancelling the AT&T service and just using my cell phone where I can pretty much screen out the junk.
— Jon Davis, Duluth
Editor, the Forum:
Regularly, I get texts desperately wanting to buy my place. I started with just replying “Stop!” That did nothing. I explain that I put my son on the deed of trust, so he could just walk in when my ashes are mailed to Pennsylvania. No reaction. I have started insulting these people. Why would I sell? There is no inventory. They must be ignorant.
I do believe there is tremendous pressure of people trying to leave northern states. There aren’t many homes here for sale.
Coming from the insurance industry where marketing is controlled by government, perhaps government intervention could control this abusive telephone marketing. Maybe real estate buyers should be limited to mail solicitation. They should be required to state specifically what they are offering and the term of the offer. But anyway, I don’t want to sell. Let’s stop this nuisance!
— Byron Gilbert, Duluth
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International phone company to open US office in Duluth
Moneypenny, a United Kingdom provider of web chat, phone answering services and outsourced switchboards for small and large businesses, will open new offices in Gwinnett in March 2021, as part of its expansion in the United State sand will be its U.S. headquarters.
The new offices will be located at 2915 Premiere Parkway, in unincorporated Duluth, within the Sugarloaf CID and will provide 100 new jobs and a considerable capital investment for the community. Voice Nation of Buford, which was bought recently by Moneypenny, will move next year to the Duluth location. Moneypenny has its first U.S. office in Charleston, S.C.
Jester
Four senior appointments have been made in both Moneypenny and VoiceNation, the bilingual telephone answering business that was acquired earlier this year. Michael Jester has been appointed vice president of U.S. Operations at Moneypenny and Tim Konrad joins as Head of U.S. Sales at Moneypenny and VoiceNation. There have also been two promotions: Sheila Davidson becomes vice president of U.S. Operations at VoiceNation and Eric Schurke has been promoted to CEO for North America.
Moneypenny is the market leader and fastest growing company in its sector, with 40 percent growth year-on-year and a 15 percent increase in employees since March 2020. It has more than 1,000 staff, with offices in Atlanta, Charleston and the U.K. It handles 20 million calls and chats annually for more than 21,000 businesses in the U.S. and U.K.
Joanna Swash, Group CEO of Moneypenny comments: “We are thrilled to have such talented people as Eric Schurke, Michael Jester, Sheila Davidson and Tim Konrad, as part of our senior team to help us in our aim to be the number one provider in the U.S. for outsourced communications. Georgia’s high-tech ecosystem will enable us to remain agile and responsive and allow us to provide the highest levels of customer service to our clients.
Eric Schurke, a native Gwinnettian, is responsible for overseeing and building the strong growth plans for Moneypenny and VoiceNation in the US. He joined VoiceNation in 2003. With over 16 years of industry experience, Eric has led his team to provide the highest level of quality answering services to thousands of businesses worldwide. He lives on Lake Lanier near Oakwood. He is a graduate of Piedmont College.
Michael Jester is responsible for the day-to-day operations of Moneypenny in the U.S. Mike was previously director of managed services at Live Person. He now lives in Suwanee. He is a graduate of the University of Texas.
Davidson
Sheila Davidson is responsible for the day-to-day operations of the company. Sheila has been with the company for eight years and previously was director of Employee Experience. She is also a graduate of Piedmont College.
Konrad
Tim Konrad has been appointed as Head of U.S. Sales at Moneypenny and VoiceNation and will be responsible for leading its sales team and scaling revenues in line with the company’s growth plans. He is experienced in developing Inside Sales Executives in the IT and Transportation industries. He is a graduate of Northern Illinois University.
New chicken salad restaurant expands in Snellville on Dec. 8
Chicken Salad Chick is expanding to Gwinnett County with its latest location set to open in Snellville before the end of the year. The newest metro-area location is introduced following recent openings in Johns Creek (August 2020) and Loganville (June 2020), and it marks the brand’s 32nd restaurant in Georgia and 15th opened in the metro-Atlanta area.
Located at 1918 Scenic Highway, Chicken Salad Chick Snellville will debut with a ribbon-cutting ceremony led by brand leadership and local employees on Tuesday, December 8 at 9:30 a.m. with guests from the City of Snellville and Gwinnett County Chamber of Commerce. The restaurant will officially open its doors to the public that morning at 10 a.m.
The restaurant will also host friends and family events on Friday, December 4 and Saturday, December 5 benefiting Southeast Gwinnett Cooperative Ministry’s food pantry.
Health department seeks volunteers to take survey anonymously
Gwinnett, Newton and Rockdale County Health Department is conducting this survey to provide information and insight about the community for Gwinnett, Newton and Rockdale counties. This survey is intended to learn about public perception regarding the forthcoming COVID-19 vaccine.
While no vaccine is yet available outside of clinical trials, this survey intends to understand how willing individuals are to receive the vaccine as well as gather demographic data to help understand those attitudes.
There are no right or wrong answers, and no personal, identifiable information will be collected. All survey answers are anonymous. You do not have to answer all questions to complete the survey. If, at any point, you wish to discontinue the survey, please close the screen and no answers will be submitted.
By completing the survey, your answers will be shared anonymously with the Health Department for marketing and educational purposes only. Thank you for your participation in this survey. If you have questions about the survey or its content, please email info@gnrhealth.com.
Fuqua chosen to develop former 26-acre Olympic tennis site
Fuqua Acquisitions II, LLC has been chosen by Gwinnett commissioners to develop a signature project on the site of the former Olympic Tennis Center in the County’s southern corridor off U.S. Highway 78 near Stone Mountain.
After serving as the site of tennis competition in the 1996 Olympics, the center fell into disuse. Gwinnett County, seeing an opportunity to revitalize an area at one of the major gateways into Gwinnett, acquired the 26-acre site in 2016. To acquire the property, the County did a land swap with the tennis venue’s owners, Stone Mountain Memorial Association Board of Directors, exchanging a 35-acre tract bordering the existing golf course at Stone Mountain Park for the venue. The county demolished the tennis structures in 2018 in anticipation of redeveloping the property.
Fuqua Acquisitions envisions building multi-family units, a large grocery store, some outparcel structures and some Main Street-style stores and shops. County officials hope the project will be completed by the end of 2022. Details of the project will be firmed up during negotiations. Fuqua has developed such notable projects as Peachtree Corners Town Center and the retail portion of The Battery at Truist Park, home of the Atlanta Braves, and is currently developing The Exchange @ Gwinnett near the Mall of Georgia.
This is the first project in which the County acquired property to sell to a developer with attached conditions to stimulate growth in an area. The county first sent out requests for Information to several firms to gauge the level of interest in the project. Of the six who responded, the County narrowed the list of firms and issued a Request for Proposals to three, but ultimately only two followed up with a more-specific proposal.
The Olympic tennis site falls within the Evermore Community Improvement District. Evermore CID Executive Director Jim Brooks said the location near Stone Mountain Park and access to major roads will make it an attractive location for future tenants.
EMCs offering $1,000 Walter Harrison scholarship based on merit
Jackson Electric Membership Cooperative (EMC) is accepting applications for the annual Walter Harrison Scholarship, which provides $1,000 for academic expenses to students pursuing post-secondary education at Georgia colleges and technical schools.
Applicants must be accepted, or enrolled currently, as a full- or part-time student, at any accredited two- or four-year university, college, or vocational-technical institute in Georgia. Student applicants must live in a primary residence served by Jackson EMC. The scholarship is merit-based, and students are evaluated on financial need, grade point average, academic standing, scholastic honors and community involvement. Applicants must complete an application and submit a biographical sketch with educational goals.
To receive an application, students should contact their school guidance counselor or visit jacksonemc.com/walterharrisonscholarship. Eleven students across Georgia will be awarded scholarships, which are sponsored by Georgia’s 41 electric cooperatives. Completed applications are due by January 22, 2021.
Consciousness and Its Implications by Daniel N. Robinson
From Karen J. Harris, Stone Mountain: This book is a dense and challenging dive into what consciousness is, and what it means to be a sentient being. There are 12 lectures that are each 40 minutes long. The lectures are: Zombies, Self-Consciousness, the Problem of Consciousness, the Explanatory Gap, Mental Causation, Other Minds, Physicalism Refined, Consciousness and Physics, Qualia and the Mary Problem, Do Computers Play Chess, Autism, Obsession and Compulsion and finally, Consciousness and the End of Mental Life. He introduces different philosophers who underscore his ideas throughout the lectures. Most interesting are the lectures about the Explanatory Gap, which asserts that consciousness resists location within a physical domain and if it could be fully explained we would be able to move consciousness from a liminal location to another physical domain. It is worthwhile to download the PDF of the lectures as the concepts are deep and elusive yet provide exercise for agile, curious minds.
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City of Richmond Hill area was once owned by Henry Ford
Richmond Hill, situated on the Ogeechee River 15 miles south of Savannah, is the largest municipality in Bryan County (although Pembroke is the county seat). According to the 2010 U.S. census, the population is 9,281. It is best known as the winter residence of the automotive pioneer Henry Ford during the 1930s and 1940s.
The history of the area goes back to the earliest days of the Georgia colony, when General James Oglethorpe built Fort Argyle near the juncture of the Ogeechee and Canoochee rivers. The legalization of slavery in 1750 and the availability of agricultural bottomland near the Ogeechee River led to rapid settlement in lower St. Philip Parish (Bryan Neck) before the American Revolution (1775-83).
In 1793 Bryan County was created from Chatham and Effingham counties and was named in honor of the colonial patriot Jonathan Bryan (1708-88).
Because of the proximity of the Ogeechee River, rice became the primary cash crop of the local agricultural economy. Lower Bryan County was the locale of some of the most productive rice plantations of tidewater Georgia in the three decades before the Civil War (1861-65).
Shipment of rice from the region was expedited by the completion of the Savannah–Ogeechee Canal in 1830. The Savannah, Albany, and Gulf Railroad, built in 1856 to link Savannah with southwest Georgia, passed through Bryan Neck, traversing the rice fields of Richard Arnold and William J. Way. The station depot of the railroad was designated Ways Station, No. 1 1/2. A small settlement developed at Ways Station, the forerunner of Richmond Hill.
After the Civil War, emancipated African Americans on Bryan Neck began to purchase their own land from plantation owners. Amos Morel, the head slave for Richard J. Arnold, became the most prominent freedman of the section as well as the largest landowner. Blacks worked for wages at the revived Ogeechee River plantations, and the area prospered until hurricanes in the 1890s wiped out the rice industry in tidewater Georgia.
Later many blacks found employment in the local lumber industry. In about 1904 the Hilton-Dodge Lumber Company of Darien opened a large sawmill and timber-exporting center at Belfast, near Ways Station. This activity continued until 1916.
In 1925 the automobile-industry pioneer Henry Ford of Dearborn, Mich. began purchasing land on Bryan Neck, eventually owning about 85,000 acres on both sides of the Ogeechee. Ford was interested in the social and agricultural improvement of the area around Ways Station, then one of the most impoverished places in Georgia. Ford hired local residents to manage his agricultural operations, provided housing and medical facilities, and built churches, community centers, and schools for blacks and whites. He developed a sawmill and a vocational trade school, improved roads and other infrastructure, and generally brought Ways Station into the 20th century.
In 1941 the town’s name was changed to Richmond Hill in honor of Ford, who had built his winter residence, Richmond, on the site of the former Clay plantation.
After Ford’s death in 1947 much of the land on Bryan Neck was sold to timber companies. Richmond Hill was incorporated in 1962, and it remained a quiet rural community until about 1980, when the building of interstate highways in the area and the influx of Chatham County residents into lower Bryan spurred rapid growth.
- To view the Georgia Encyclopedia article online, go to http://georgiaencyclopedia.org
Tall cross gets attention as today’s Mystery Photo
There’s quite a story behind today’s Mystery Photo. See if you can identify it and learn how and why it was erected. Send your thoughts to elliott@brack.net, and be sure to include your hometown.
The last Mystery Photo was difficult, and solved only by George Graf of Palmyra, Va. The photo comes from Mickey Merkel of Berkeley Lake. Graf wrote: “It is North Face Lodge, Camp Denali, at Mile 89, Denali Park Road, Denali National Park, Alaska, 99755. North Face Lodge is situated on five acres of land homesteaded in the 1950s. The Cole family – who also own Camp Denali just a mile away – purchased the property in the 1980s as a way to ensure a small operation, with a focus on stewardship of the land instead of development. Today, the original North Face cabin remains, along with the lodge which was built in the 70s and extensively renovated in the 80s.
“About 36 guests enjoy the back country location of North Face Lodge on multi-day stays that feature natural and cultural history education through guided hikes and field trips. Local produce and meat from Fairbanks-based Alaska Grown, and produce from the on-site greenhouse, is incorporated into the handcrafted artisan food served in the dining room.”
Artist’s Open Studio at the Anita Gill Stewart Gallery, 3478 Bonneville Way, Suwanee, will be Saturday, Dec. 5, from 10 a.m. until 3 p.m., and Sunday, Dec. 6, from 1-3 p.m. Items include Anita’s Lacy Ladies, and her international art and creatively refurbished furniture. RSVP: 678-230-4937.
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